Many people believe that these two heroes will be available from the tavern. But, I think otherwise.
Previously, heroes that were described as "not available yet" ended up becoming quest rewards. Hedvig and Octavius are two big examples.
Furthermore, I realized that in 1.8 there are more possible quests to get these heroes from. One quest is the special missions quest, and the other is the hero adventure quest. What I believe will happen is that 1.8.5 wilt introduce Saladin and Achilles as tavern heroes, and Manto and Mary Read as quest heroes. This is similar to a previous update that added Octavius and Hedvig (along with two others I can't remember) after showing them first as "not available yet" during the Edward IV, El Cid, Gawain, and Philinus update.
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