Wednesday, November 18, 2015

5+1 Counter

I think I have found a way to counter a 5+1 rally effectively. A 5+1 rally only works because Reinhard has sufficient tanking ability to hold back multiple enemies at once. If he were to be killed, a 5+1 could fall apart relatively quickly.

So, to take apart a 5+1, you need to kill Reinhard. There are many ways to kill Reinhard, and I just have a few ideas right now.


  • Robinhood
  • Elizabeth
  • Bellerophon + nomadic cavalry archers
Anyone else have any ideas?

15 comments:

  1. Beltor+shockcavEl Cid+antipolicav"Procalot", has worked against mist. His Rein was supported by phil, and beltor! I needed 4 tries finding the right placements(he had marlin also), but i made it.

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  2. Beltor+shockcavEl Cid+antipolicav"Procalot", has worked against mist. His Rein was supported by phil, and beltor! I needed 4 tries finding the right placements(he had marlin also), but i made it.

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  3. Elizabet can't do anything with his shield (as far as I know), Belle is totally useless. Robin is not a bad idea. Also a polymage and Igni (while he is still bugged). Morgana with high skill level should be usefull too.
    Recently I easily beat a guy with ap higher than mine, his Belle stood against my Reinhard and they were the strongest minions in his rally. Useless.

    As for me, I don't counter it at all, just put all my heroes against his 5 rows.

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    1. I said "Bellerophon with NOMADIC CAVALRY ARCHERS"...

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    2. I know, but it doesn't really matter. Only mages and pikemen can hurt my Rein. Moreover all minions act like nomadic because Rein's minions die pretty fast when he holds 2 rows. I don't even upgrade them anymore.

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  4. Disagree with robin, she attacks the enemy with the highest defence in range(since she's bug two times the same), so if someone near to Rein has bigger def., Robin cant "find" him.

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  5. Disagree with robin, she attacks the enemy with the highest defence in range(since she's bug two times the same), so if someone near to Rein has bigger def., Robin cant "find" him.

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    1. But Reinhard has quite a bit of def last i checked...

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  6. i don't know why no one noticed it (or maybe everyone that know it, wanna keep it a secret?)....the best counter for reinhard is ignatius, arcane energy ignores holy shield too...it takes me usually 20-30 sec to kill him in a 5+1 formation

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    1. I said about him earlier. But he will be fixed in 1.9

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  7. oh....didn't see your comment.
    if it's going to be fixed, the best counter for him will be ignatius+morgana i guess..,he has a too high defence for any other troops to kill him swiftly

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    1. forgot...maybe achilles should be fine too

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    2. Yes, it's already fixed in 1.9 beta.
      Agreed, Achilles should be ok, Reinhard's dodge usually is more than 50. But I'll say again, in most cases I prefer to ignore him. And I'm not the only one, that's why high-level players now usually use 5+0 tactics, sometimes even without Reinhard at all.

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